What Happened To Japanese Products? | ThisConnect S02E02 | #ThisConnect
The Japanese dominated the world in quality and products in the 1970s and 1980s. But lately, their products lag behind the norm in India, and they don’t appear to have a strategy that works towards the changing needs of Indian car and motorcycle buyers. On ThisConnect season 2, episode two, Kartikeya and Shumi discuss how this incredible country and culture lost its way and what the solution is.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Rising Sun?
02:40 Going Gets Tough
04:05 What Japan is Like
09:18 Can’t Drive In Japan
10:16 Process Orientation
12:15 Do We Need Japanese CEOs?
16:23 Broken Systems Persist
18:12 Breaking Expectations
20:15 Changed Expectations
21:32 Japan Can’t Manage Change
25:32 Respect Is a Two-Way Street
28:24 Japan’s Money Problem
30:30 Not Cutting Edge Any More
31:39 India vs Japan
33:32 Strange Decisions
35:30 Is Japan Just Old?
37:07 Generation Gap
40:05 The Experience Problem
43:20 Lack of Innovation
46:00 Japan Knows Better?
47:20 How Change Will Happen
49:40 Are These Strong Brands?
52:35 Can Japan Innovate?
54:10 The Next Episode
55:47 Closing Comments
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Chapters
00:00 Rising Sun?
02:40 Going Gets Tough
04:05 What Japan is Like
09:18 Can't Drive In Japan
10:16 Process Orientation
12:15 Do We Need Japanese CEOs?
16:23 Broken Systems Persist
18:12 Breaking Expectations
20:15 Changed Expectations
21:32 Japan Can't Manage Change
25:32 Respect Is a Two-Way Street
28:24 Japan's Money Problem
30:30 Not Cutting Edge Any More
31:39 India vs Japan
33:32 Strange Decisions
35:30 Is Japan Just Old?
37:07 Generation Gap
40:05 The Experience Problem
43:20 Lack of Innovation
46:00 Japan Knows Better?
47:20 How Change Will Happen
49:40 Are These Strong Brands?
52:35 Can Japan Innovate?
54:10 The Next Episode
55:47 Closing Comments
Honda doesn't know aerodynamics… Yet they won most moto GPs, as much as 313. 2nd is Yamaha at 245. In last 15 years, Honda won 7, Yamaha won 5 Suzuki won 2 and finally Ducati the only non-jap won twice, And yet, japanese don't know aerodynamics, and yamaha is learning from Europe . I don't know what to say.
Wow… When it comes to Japanese, they're sticking to their old philosophy, they aren't changing!
When it comes to Bajaj, wow they aren't changing, they're sticking together.
But yes I agree with the point of cycling CEOs every 2-3yrs.
Isn't all car manufacturers do the same, I mean creating different brands targetting different customers, GM, VW, Ford everyone is doing… I don't understand what's it has to do with Japan.
Isn't all car manufacturers do the same, I mean creating different brands targetting different customers, GM, VW, Ford everyone is doing… I don't understand what it has to do with Japan.
True, Japanese are slow at times I hate it, but at least they don't make us ginipigs like Bajaj, RE etc.
Karthikya, Brilliant point… Japan is an aging population… And they tops the list in the whole world. So naturally they are slow to change.
Good point Shumi… Can legendary reliability a Brand? May be 'No'.
But who says Toyota wants to be a "Brand", may be they just want to be the most reliable car company for consumers, where people come and buy cars with closed eyes.
And may be for experience, for brand, they're offering you Lexus.
As a Dutchman I worked for an Indian owned company for 1,5 years. I’ll not say more except that one should avoid easy cliches / tropes, even if it becomes difficult to hold back. All over the world the undercurrents are the same: An elite rules and the majority is told to be opinionated about foreigners, being all to glad to do so. This is NOT up to your normal level. And so I stopped watching.
PS: And those looked down upon and / or do not get any opportunities do not even need to be foreigners.
Awesome Podcast !!!!
Shumi's point on Honda Activa was spot on 👌.
We as a Consumer need to demand for the best product and not get used to mediocre products. but Unfortunately its a long way to go…
Few months back my friend was in a dilemma to buy which Scooter EV or petrol that suits him and his mom, and I suggested him the Tvs Jupiter, Suzuki Access and River indie (EV) as they both carry quite a bit of luggage in their commute.
Last month he came with a new Scooter, and guess what it was the Activa and I was not surprised
And when asked why you got Activa, he said that multiple Dealership said that this year already 2lakh units sold in India, it is the best scooter for daily use.
And I said Bro You deserve an Activa
this is what anime does to ones intellect.
very good video , thumps up, i am big fan of reliablity, but thats not the only market demand today, reliablity 50% rest of the thing is 50% now i assume. I worked with NEC"C" japanese telecom brand , back in 2000-2005 they were like lead in innovation but when chinese and americans came in – NEC"C" becoma old in just 5 years and today veryfar behind. their equipments still works better than other but less advanced. Japanes needs indian CEO who can work with technology + innovation + advance features so that they can meet market demands. we indian expectations are really 60% look and 40% other stuff when we buy car LOL
why dont you both join japanese companies ,, i am serious no joking ,,, japan is really getting old, no question about reliability. but they need to meet the competitor in other aspects ,,, "Arigato" to you both 🙂
Toyota's identity…….a car with a mounted 50 caliber machine gun…(Shumi we know you wanted to say this)
man sheumi is on an another level aggression in this episode!!!!!
I think india and japan both suffered it for a long time.. Hero is a good(bad) example..mahindra and royal Enfield were game changers
Japan had to paas a resolution so that people in office stop using floppy disk and Fax machines..
When you mentioned Fazer, it also reminded me of the Libero, a bike with an amazing behind but a ghastly front!
Title should have been 'what happened to Honda?' 😅
You promised the BRAND LOYALTY which is still pending😢 please do it
I got a Mahindra XUV 3X0 AX5 Diesel AMT. My only dilemma was choosing between Petrol and Diesel because Petrol has an AT option.
you gave a textbook example of Canada and how their immigration works. And how did that work out for Canada ? May be you don't know, Canada is going down the drain.. their healthcare system is broken, they get most of their migration from African countries, Punjabi immigrants (not the cream, but the lowest of the lows who could barely graduate). Yes, Japanese population is going down, but atleast they don;t face the issue of wokeness, and degenerated younger generations, drug problem et al that is very very common in west these days.
Japan has taken "good things take time" too seriously
5 min into the podcast & i had to grab some popcorns. Shumi & Kartikeya are bang on with this topic. 🎉
what is that motogp podcast shumi mentioned, in process orientation part
I have alaways heard of the conspiracy of US controlling Japan. Till 90's they were given full freedom to grow, but they became too big and started threatening US. So, some subtle changes were made in their policies from which they still haven't completely recovered. I think the alien CEO which Shumi was talking about was US.🤔😉
I disagree with the age thing as iam still seeing Italian brands do what they are doing fantastically. I would say it is more of a cultural thing. Also if we look at 1980’s Japan it is worse than slums in Mumbai. They must have got huge aid for infra I guess, that must have contributed to their growth
Schumi.. is better than say raghuram rajan.. he should also write economist as well in his profile…
Big fan since 20 years .. this conversation shows how talented he is..
This YouTube channel showcased the best of schumi…
The entire podcast in 2 words = Part Sharing
43:10 Sorry but couldn’t stop myself. Just a suggestion, the word UI/UX can be replaced with interaction design or User experience or experience design.
Man what is podcast! I never knew I could get this kind of knowledge from two guys talking about Motorcycle. And fun fact, I am not even a motorcycle nerd. The Japanese culture, the generation gap, the money mindset, wow!